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'''Chapter 10. Investigation of Fire and Firewood'''
 
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'''''(Fire)''''' - (([[kun skyobs]]) here meaning as all consuming...and not necessarily as ([[me]]), one of [[khams lnga]], the five elements)
 
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<span class=TibUni18>བུད་ཤིང་གང་དེ་མེ་ཡིམ་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>བྱེད་པ་པོ་དང་ལས་གཅིག་འགྱུར།།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གཻ་ཏེ་ཤིག་ལས་མེ་གཞན་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཤིང་མེད་པར་ཡང་འབྱུང་བར་འགྱུར།།</span><br>
 
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1. [[bud shing]] [[gang de]] [[me]] [[yin na]]/<br>
 
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[[byed pa po]] [[dang la]]s [[gcig 'gyur]]/<br>
 
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[[gal te]] [[shing]] [[las]] [[me]] [[gzhan na]]/<br>
 
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[[shing]] [[med par]] [[yang]] [['byung ba]]r [['gyur]]//
 
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1. If firewood were fire, actor and act would be one. If fire were other than wood, it would occur even without wood.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>རྟག་ཏུ་འབར་བ་ཉིད་དུ་འགྱུར།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>འབར་བྱེད་རྒྱུ་ལས་མི་འབྱུང་ཞིང།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>རྩོམ་པ་དོན་མེད་ཉིད་དུ་འགྱུར།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དེ་ལྟ་ཡིན་ན་ལས་ཀྱང་མེད།།</span><br>
 
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2. [[rtag tu]] [['bar ba]] [[nyid du]] [['gyur]]/<br>
 
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[['bar byed]] [[rgyu la]]s [[mi 'byung]] [[zhing]]/<br>
 
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[[rtsom pa]] [[don med]] [[nyid du]] [['gyur]]/<br>
 
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[[de lta]] [[yin na]] [[las kyang]] [[med]]//
 
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2. [Fire] would burn permanently and would not arise from causes for burning. Starting [a fire] would be meaningless. If it were like that, there would also be no act.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གཞན་ལ་ལྟོས་པ་མེད་པའི་ཕྱིར།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>འབར་བར་བྱེད་རྒྱུ་ལས་མི་འབྱུང།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>རྟག་ཏུ་འབར་བ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>རྩོམ་པ་དོན་མེད་ཉིད་དུ་འགྱུར།།</span><br>
 
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3. [[gzhan la]] [[ltos pa med pa]]'i [[phyir]]/<br>
 
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[['bar ba]]r [[byed rgyu]] [[las mi 'byung]]/<br>
 
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[[rtag tu]] [['bar ba]] [[yin na]] [[ni]]/<br>
 
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[[rtsom pa]] [[don med]] [[nyid du]] [['gyur]]//
 
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3. Because [fire] does not depend on anything else, it would not arise from causes for burning. If it burned permanently, starting it would be meaningless.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དེ་ལ་གལ་ཏེ་འདི་སྙམ་དུ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>སྲེག་བཞིན་བུད་ཤིང་ཡིན་སེམས་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གང་ཚེ་དེ་ཙམ་དེ་ཡིན་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གང་གིས་བུད་ཤིང་དེ་སྲེག་བྱེད།།</span><br>
 
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4. [[de la]] [[gal te]] [['di]] [[snyam du]]/<br>
 
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[[sreg]] [[bzhin]] [[bud shing]] [[yin]] [[sems na]]/<br>
 
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[[gang tshe]] [[de tsam]] [[de yin na]]/<br>
 
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[[gang gis]] [[bud shing]] [[de]] [[sreg byed]]//
 
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4. Concerning this, if one thinks that while burning it is firewood, if it is such only at that time, by what could that firewood be ignited?
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གཞན་ཕྱིར་མི་ཕྲད་ཕྲད་མེད་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>སྲེག་པར་མི་འགྱུར་མི་སྲེག་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>འཆི་བར་མི་འགྱུར་མི་འཆི་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>རང་རྟགས་དང་ཡང་ལྡན་པར་གནས།།</span><br>
 
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5. [[gzhan]] [[phyir]] [[mi]] [[phrad phrad]] [[med na]]/<br>
 
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[[sreg pa]]r [[mi 'gyur]] [[mi]] [[sreg]] [[na]]/<br>
 
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[['chi ba]]r [[mi 'gyur]] [[mi]] [['chi]] [[na]]/<br>
 
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[[rang rtags]] [[dang]] [[yang]] [[ldan par]] [[gnas]]//
 
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5. Because [fire] is other, it would not connect; if it did not connect, it would not ignite; if it did not ignite, it would not die; if it did not die, it would also remain in possession of its own characteristic.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཇི་ལྟར་བུད་མེད་སྐྱེས་པ་དང།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>སྐྱེས་པའང་བུད་མེད་ཕྲད་པ་བཞི།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གལ་ཏེ་ཤིང་ལས་མེ་གཞན་ཡང།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཤིང་དང་ཕྲད་དུ་རུང་བར་འགྱུར།།</span><br>
 
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6. [[ji ltar]] [[bud med]] [[skyes pa]] [[dang]]/<br>
 
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[[skyes pa]]'ang [[bud med]] [[phrad pa]] [[bzhi]]/<br>
 
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[[gal te]] [[shing]] [[las]] [[me]] [[gzhan yang]]/<br>
 
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[[shing]] [[dang]] [[phrad]] [[du]]** [[rung bar 'gyur]]//
 
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6. Just as a woman connects with a man and a man too with a woman, although fire is other than wood, it is fit to connect with wood.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གལ་ཏེ་མེ་དང་ཤིང་དག་ནི།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གཅིག་གིས་གཅིག་ནི་བསལ་གྱུར་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཤིང་ལས་མེ་གཞན་ཉིད་ཡིན་ཡང།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཤིང་དང་ཕྲད་པར་འདོད་ལ་རག།།</span><br>
 
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7. [[gal te]] [[me]] [[dang]] [[shing]] [[dag]] [[ni]]/<br>
 
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[[gcig gis gcig]] [[ni]] [[bsal]] [[gyur na]]/<br>
 
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[[shing]] [[las]] [[me]] [[gzhan nyid]] [[yin yang]]/<br>
 
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[[shing]] [[dang phrad pa]]r [['dod]] [[la]] [[rag]]//
 
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7. If fire and wood eliminated each other, even though fire is something other than wood, it would have to connect with wood.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གལ་ཏེ་ཤིང་ལྟོས་མེ་ཡིན་ལ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གལ་ཏེ་མེ་ལྟོས་ཤིང་ཡིན་ན་།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གང་ལྟོས་མེ་དང་ཤིང་འགྱུར་བ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དང་པོར་གྲུབ་པ་གང་ཞིག་ཡིན།།</span><br>
 
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8. [[gal te]] [[shing]] [[ltos]] [[me]] [[yin la]]/<br>
 
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[[gal te]] [[me]] [[ltos]] [[shing]] [[yin na]]/<br>
 
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[[gang]] [[ltos]] [[me]] [[dang]] [[shing]] [['gyur ba]]/<br>
 
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[[dang por]] [[grub pa]] [[gang zhig]] [[yin]]//
 
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8. If fire were dependent on wood and wood were dependent on fire, of what becomes fire and wood dependently, which would be established first?
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གལ་ཏེ་ཤིང་ལྟོས་མེ་ཡིན་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མེ་གྲུབ་པ་ལ་སྒྲུབ་པར་འགྱུར།།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>བུད་པར་བྱ་བའི་ཤིང་ལ་ཡང།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མེ་མེད་པར་ནི་འགྱུར་པ་ཡིན།</span><br>
 
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9. [[gal te]] [[shing]] [[ltos]] [[me]] [[yin na]]/<br>
 
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[[me]] [[grub pa la sgrub pa]]r [['gyur]]/<br>
 
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[[bud pa]]r [[bya ba]]'i [[shing]] [[la yang]]/<br>
 
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[[me]] [[med par]] [[ni]] [['gyur]] [[pa yin]]//
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གལ་ཏེ་དངོས་པོ་གང་ལྟོས་འགྲུབ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དེ་ཉིད་ལ་ཡ་ལྟོས་ནས་ནི།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ལྟོས་བྱ་གང་ཡིན་དེ་འགྲུབ་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གང་ལ་ལྟོས་ནས་གང་ཞིག་འགྲུབ།།</span><br>
 
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[[de nyid]] [[la]] [[ya]] [[ltos nas]] [[ni]]/<br>
 
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[[ltos]] [[bya]] [[gang yin]] [[de]] [['grub]] [[na]]/<br>
 
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[[gang la]] [[ltos nas]] [[gang zhig]] [['grub]]//
 
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10. If a thing (A) is established dependently (on B), [but] if what it depends upon (B) is established also in dependence on that very thing (A), what would be established in dependence on what?
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དངོས་པོ་ལྟོས་གྲུབ་གང་ཡིན་པ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དེ་མ་གྲུབ་ན་ཇི་ལྟར་ལྟོས།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཅི་སྟེ་གྲུབ་པ་ལྟོས་ཤེ་ན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དེ་ནི་ལྟོས་པར་མི་རིགས་སོ།།</span><br>
 
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[[de ma]] [[grub]] [[na]] [[ji ltar]] [[ltos]]/<br>
 
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[[ci ste]] [[grub pa]] [[ltos]] [[she na]]/<br>
 
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[[de ni]] [[ltos par]] [[mi rigs]] [[so]]//
 
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11. How can a thing (A) which is established dependently (on B) be dependent (on B) when it (A) is not established? If one asks, "how can establishment be dependent?" It is not reasonable for it (A) to be dependent.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཤིང་ལ་ལྟོས་པའི་མེ་མེད་དེ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཤིང་ལ་མ་ལྟོས་མེ་ཡང་མེད།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མེ་ལ་ལྟོས་པའི་ཤིང་མེད་དེ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མེ་ལ་མ་ལྟོས་ཤིང་ཡང་མེད།།</span><br>
 
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12. [[shing]] [[la ltos pa]]'i [[me]] [[med]] [[de]]/<br>
 
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[[shing]] [[la ma]] [[ltos]] [[me]] [[yang med]]/<br>
 
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[[me la]] [[ltos pa'i]] [[shing[[ [[med]] [[de]]/<br>
 
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[[me la]] [[ma]] [[ltos]] [[shing]] [[yang med]]//
 
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12. There is no fire that is dependent on wood; there is also no fire that is not dependent on wood. There is no wood that is dependent on fire; there is also no wood that is not dependent on fire.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མེ་ནི་གཞན་ལས་མི་འོང་སྟེ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18ཤིང་ལའང་མེ་ནི་ཡོད་མ་ཡིན།></span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དེ་བཞིན་ཤིང་གི་ལྷག་མ་ནི།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>སོང་དང་མ་སོང་བགོམ་པས་བསྟན།།</span><br>
 
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13. [[me]] [[ni]] [[gzhan las]] [[mi 'ong]] [[ste]]/<br>
 
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[[shing]] [[la'ang]] [[me]] [[ni]] [[yod ma yin]]/<br>
 
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[[de bzhin]] [[shing]] [[gi]] [[lhag ma]] [[ni]]/<br>
 
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[[song]] [[dang]] [[ma song]] [[bgom pa]]s [[bstan]]//
 
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13. Fire does not come from something else; fire also does not exist in wood. Likewise, the remainder of wood has been shown by gone, not-gone and going.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཤིང་ཉིད་མེ་ནི་མ་ཡིན་ཏེ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཤིང་ལས་གཞན་པ་མེ་ཡང་མེད།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མེ་ནི་ཤིང་དང་ལྡན་མ་ཡིན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མེ་ལ་ཤིང་མེད་དེར་དེ་མེད།།</span><br>
 
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14. [[shing]] [[nyid]] [[me]] [[ni]] [[ma yin te]]/<br>
 
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[[shing]] [[las gzhan pa]] [[me]] [[yang med]]/<br>
 
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[[me]] [[ni]] [[shing]] [[dang ldan]] [[ma yin]]/<br>
 
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[[me la]] [[shing]] [[med]] [[der]] [[de]] [[med]]//
 
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14. Wood itself is not fire; fire is also not something other than wood. Fire does not possess wood; wood does not exist in fire; that (fire) does not exist in it.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མེ་དང་ཤིང་གིས་བདག་དང་ནི།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཉེ་བར་ལེན་པའི་རིམ་པ་ཀུན།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>བུམ་སྣམ་སོགས་དང་ལྷན་ཅིག་ཏུ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མ་ལུས་པར་ནི་རྣམ་པར་བཤད།།</span><br>
 
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15. [[me]] [[dang]] [[shing]] [[gis]] [[bdag]] [[dang]] [[ni]]/<br>
 
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[[nye bar len pa'i]] [[rim pa]] [[kun]]/<br>
 
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[[bum]] [[snam]] [[sogs]] [[dang]] [[lhan cig tu]]/<br>
 
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[[ma lus par]] [[ni]] [[rnam par]] [[bshad]]//
 
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15. Through fire and wood is explained without exception all the stages of self and the grasped and at the same time jugs, cloth and so on.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གང་དག་བདག་དང་དངོས་པོ་རྣམས།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>དེ་བཅས་ཉིད་དང་ཐ་དད་པར།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>སྟོན་པ་དེ་དག་བསྟན་དོན་ལ།</span><br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>མཁས་སོ་སྙམ་དུ་མི་སེམས་སོ།།</span><br>
 
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16. [[gang dag]] [[bdag]] [[dang]] [[dngos po rnams]]/<br>
 
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[[de]] [[bcas]] [[nyid]] [[dang]] [[tha dad par]]/<br>
 
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[[ston pa]] [[de dag]] [[bstan don]] [[la]]/<br>
 
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[[mkhas]] [[so]] [[snyam du]] [[mi sems]] [[so]]//
 
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16. I do not think those who teach the identity or difference of self and things are wise in the meaning of the teaching.
 
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[[me]] [[dang]] [[bud shing]] [[brtag pa]] [[zhes bya ba]] [[ste]] [[rab tu byed pa]] [[bcu pa]]'o//
 
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