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'''22. Investigation of the Tathagata'''
 
 
 
'''''(Buddhanature)'''''
 
 
 
[For '''Ts.''' 370, this and the following chapter on error both serve to "demonstate that the flow of becoming is empty of inherent existence."]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
1. phung min phung po las gzhan min/<br>
 
de la phung med de der med/<br>
 
de bzhin gshegs pa phung ldan min/<br>
 
de bzhin gshegs pa gang zhig yin /<br>
 
 
 
1. Not the aggregates, not other than the aggregates; the aggregates are not in him; he is not in them: the [[Tathagata]] does not possess the aggregates. What is the Tathagata?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2. gal te sangs rgyas phung po la/<br>
 
brten nas rang bzhin las yod min/<br>
 
rang bzhin las ni gang med pa/<br>
 
de gzhan dngos las ga la yod /<br>
 
 
 
(Here and below the sanskrit for brten pa is upadaya (upadana). Only from v. 5 does the Tibetan start using forms of [[nyer len]])
 
 
 
2. If the buddha depends on the aggregates, he does not exist from an own-nature. How can that which does not exist from an own-nature exist from an other-nature?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
3. gang zhig gzhan gyi dngos brten nas/<br>
 
de bdag nyid du mi 'thad do/<br>
 
gang zhig bdag nyid med pa de/<br>
 
ji ltar de bzhin gshegs par 'gyur /<br>
 
 
 
3. It is not tenable for something dependent on other-nature to be self-existent. How can that which has no self-existence be [[tathagata]]?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
4. gal te rang bzhin yod min na/<br>
 
gzhan dngos yod par ji ltar 'gyur/<br>
 
rang bzhin dang ni gzhan dngos dag/<br>
 
ma gtogs de bzhin gshegs de gang /<br>
 
 
 
[l. a-b cf. 2.c-d:
 
 
 
:rang bzhin las ni gang med pa/<br>
 
:de gzhan dngos las ga la yod/]<br>
 
 
 
4. If self-nature does not exist, how can there be the existence of other-nature? What is a Tathagata apart from own-nature and other-nature?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
5. gal te phung po ma brten par/<br>
 
de bzhin gshegs pa 'ga' yod na/<br>
 
de ni da gdong* rten** 'gyur zhing/<br>
 
brten nas de nas 'gyur la rag /<br>
 
 
 
['''Lha.''' *gdod, **brten.  '''Ts.''' *gzod, **brten].
 
 
 
5. If there exists a tathagata [who is] not depending on the aggregates, he exists in depending [on them] now and will henceforth depend.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
6. phung po rnams la ma brten par/<br>
 
de bzhin gshegs pa 'ga' yang med/<br>
 
gang zhig ma brten yod min na/<br>
 
des ni ji ltar nyer len 'gyur /<br>
 
 
 
6. If there does not exist a tathagata [who is]not depending on the aggregates, how does he grasp [depend on? them]?
 
 
 
[v. 5 & 6 mirror each other grammatically - (cf. Skt.) l.c of v. 6 is effectively redundant; it serves as metric padding for the conditional na]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
7. nye bar blangs pa ma yin pa*/<br>
 
nye bar len par** cis mi 'gyur/<br>
 
nye bar len pa med pa yi/<br>
 
de bzhin gshegs pa ci yang med /<br>
 
 
 
['''Ts.''' *pas; '''Lha.''' **pa]
 
 
 
7. [Since] there is nothing to be grasped/dependent on, there can be no grasping/depending. There is no [[tathagata]] at all who is without grasping/depending.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
8. rnam pa lngas ni btsal byas na/<br>
 
gang zhig de nyid gzhan nyid du/<br>
 
med pa'i de bzhin gshegs pa de/<br>
 
nye bar len pas ji ltar gdags /<br>
 
 
 
8. If having examined in five ways, how can that tathagata who does not exist as that one or the other be [conventionally] understood by grasping/depending?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
9. gang zhig nye bar blang ba* de/<br>
 
de ni rang bzhin las yod min/<br>
 
bdag gi dngos las gang med pa/<br>
 
de gzhan dngos las yod re skan /<br>
 
 
 
['''Lha.''' *pa]
 
 
 
9. That which is grasped/depended on does not exist from its own nature. It is impossible for that which does not exist from its own nature to exist from another nature.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
10. de ltar nyer blang nyer len po/<br>
 
rnam pa kun gyis stong pa yin/<br>
 
stong pas de bzhin gshegs stong pa/<br>
 
ji lta bur na 'dogs par 'gyur /<br>
 
 
 
[cf. v. 8; [['dogs]] = prajnapyate]
 
 
 
10. In that way, what is grasped/depended on and what grasps/depends are empty in every aspect. How can an empty tathagata be [conventionally] understood by what is empty?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
11. stong ngo zhes kyang mi brjod de/<br>
 
mi stong zhes kyang mi bya zhing/<br>
 
gnyis dang gnyis min mi bya ste/<br>
 
gdags pa'i don du brjod par bya/<br>
 
 
 
11. Do not say "empty," or "not empty," or "both," or "neither:" these are mentioned for the sake of [conventional] understanding.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
12. rtag dang mi rtag la sogs bzhi/<br>
 
zhi ba 'di la ga la yod/<br>
 
mtha' dang mtha' med la sogs bzhi/<br>
 
zhi ba 'di la ga la yod /<br>
 
 
 
12. Where can the four such as permanence and impermanence exist in this peaceful one? Where can the four such as end and no-end [of the world] exist in this peaceful one?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
13. gang gis de bzhin gshegs yod ces/<br>
 
'dzin pa stug po* bzung gyur pa/<br>
 
de ni mya ngan 'das pa la/<br>
 
med ces rnam rtog rtog par byed /<br>
 
 
 
['''Lha.''' *pos; '''Ts.''' *po]
 
 
 
13. Those who hold the dense apprehension, "the tathagata exists" conceive the thought, "he does not exist in nirvana."
 
 
 
['''Ts.''' 378-9 says that while this version is found in [[Chandrakirti]]'s Prasannapada, he prefers the version quoted by [[Buddhapalita]]:
 
 
 
:gang gis 'dzin stug bzung gyur pa/<br>
 
:de ni mya ngan 'das pa la/<br>
 
:de bzhin gshegs pa yod ce'am/<br>
 
:med ces rnam tog rtog par byed/<br>
 
 
 
''("Those who hold dense apprehensions conceive thoughts of the tathagata's "existence" or "non-existence" in nirvana.")''
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
14. rang bzhin gyis ni stong de la/<br>
 
sangs rgyas mya ngan 'das nas ni/<br>
 
yod do zhe'am med do zhes/<br>
 
bsam pa* 'thad pa nyid mi 'gyur /<br>
 
 
 
['''Lha.''' *pa'ang]
 
 
 
14. For that one empty of own-nature, it is entirely inappropriate to think that once the buddha has nirvana-ed he either "exists" or "does not exist."
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
15. gang dag sangs rgyas spros 'das shing/<br>
 
zad pa med la spros byed pa/<br>
 
spros pas nyams pa de kun gyis/<br>
 
de bzhin gshegs pa mthong mi 'gyur /<br>
 
 
 
['''K.''' 310. zad pa med pa = avyaya = non-variable / steadfast]
 
 
 
15. Those who make fixations about Buddha who is beyond fixations and without deterioration -- all those who are damaged by fixations do not see the tathagata.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
16. de bzhin gshegs pa'i rang bzhin gang/<br>
 
de ni 'gro 'di'i rang bzhin yin/<br>
 
de bzhin gshegs pa rang bzhin med/<br>
 
'gro ba 'di yi rang bzhin med /<br>
 
 
 
16. Whatever is the own-nature of the tathagata, that is the own-nature of this world. The tathagata has no own-nature. This world has no own-nature.
 
 
 
de bzhin gshegs pa brtag pa zhes bya ba ste rab tu byed pa nyi shu gnyis pa'o //<br>
 
 
 
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