Talk:Shangpa Kagyu

I see Shangpa listed as one of the "The Eight Chariots of Tibetan Buddhism" at KagyuOffice.org ... seems a useful term to disconfound from "8 Lesser".
And here, more ... so to "Chariots of Tibetan Buddhism" and "great practice lineages" we must add "Eight Great Disciplines" and "Eight Chariots of Transmission" --KC:

"sgrub brgyud shing rta brgyad" by any other name. How many different designations do we need... Somewhere else on their site they also go on to say that the Shangpa are one of the 4 Greater and 8 lesser Dagpo Kagyu lineages, which is of course wrong. I for one think what we have is quite enough. Every one knows that the "sgrub brgyud shing rta brgyad" and the "bka' brgyud chung brgyad" are two different kettle of fish... :-) TSD

Oooops, I have to correct that! My bad! The DON'T say that, they just call them "one of the main Kagyu lineages", which still a bit misleading, since the Shangpa developed completely independent of the Marpa/Dagpo Kagyu lineages. It's just that term "Kagyu" that keeps confusing people... TSD