mthun mi mthun phyogs gnyis ka la gtan med du 'jug pa

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མཐུན་མི་མཐུན་ཕྱོགས་གཉིས་ཀ་ལ་གཏན་མེད་དུ་འཇུག་པ
from the phyogs chos gtan tshigs dgu, an thun mong min pa'i ma nges pa'i rtags: mthun phyogs and mi mthun phyogs of the reason and thesis are both non-existent, EG the dharmin sound is permanent, because it is hearable [mnyan bya], like a vase and space, "mnyan bya" de sgra rtag par sgrub pa'i mthun phyogs never exists in space &, and likewise the mi mthun phyogs a vase la'ang gtan nas med pa'o [IW]