tha ram

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1) bad; 2) kind of ram bu growing along roads and in wild fields [ro mngar la bska ba, zhu rjes bsil, nus pas 'khru ba gcod, 'brum nag dang, mes tsig pa'i rma gso, glo lu ba 'jags par byed]; 3) ram pa grass); 1) bad [Gzhan gyi mig ltos shas rkyen du 'gyur ba'i tha ram gyi spyod pa byed du mi 'jug]; 2) growing in wild fields tha ba and in/by paths ram bu'i rigs shig [ro mngar la bska ba, zhu rjes bsil, nus pas 'khru ba gcod, 'brum nag dang, mes tsig pa'i rma gso, glo lu ba 'jags par byed] 3) ram pa grass [IW]

vile, mean, medicinal herb plantago major, breadth of a plain plantago depressa willd. [JV]

1) bad; 2) growing in wild fields tha ba and in/by paths ram bu'i rigs shig; 3) ram pa grass [IW]

(med) Plantains
Synonyms : ti gu lam skyes, ti gu ram pa, ti gu lam yag, ti la ca chung, o pa the rang, be khur, btsun mo g.yu'i lcang lo can, to ma ni ta, me mo, su smi li 'on (Shel gong), na skyes tha ram (Wangyal 2020)

tha ram na ram la sogs 'khru ba gcod / ces pa'i ram pa la rigs bzhi ste / tha ram na ram ram bu spang ram mo / dang po tha ram la /rang byung pas / tha ram pa yis 'khru ba gcod / [340] dang / dpag bsam ljon par / tha ram pa yis grang 'khru gcod / gsungs / snying por / ti gur ma yag 'khru ba gcod gsungs / ming / ti gu lam skyes / ti gu ram pa / ti gu lam yag / ti la ca chung / o pa the rang / be khur / btsun mo g.yu'i lcang lo can / rgya gar pas to ma ni ta / rgya nag pas me [?] / mi nyag pas su smi li 'on rnams zer / 'khrungs dper / tha ram zhing rgod tha ba dang / lam khar skye ba'i lo ma ni / snum la rug 'dra ri mo can / sdong bu gcan gzan mjug ma 'dra / 'bras bu ram pa'i snye ma bcas / sa la bgrad nas skye ba yin / ro ni mngar bska 'khru ba gcod / ces pa'o / gnyis pa na ram la / ... (Shel gong shel phreng, pdf p 339.6)

Illustrations : 'Phrin Las 1987 (29_075) tha ram rigs gnyis skyes gnas kyi dbang gis na ram du kha cig zhes / bod mkhas pa gong ma na ram dang 'og ma tha ram du bzhed. Plantago asiatica L., someone claim those grown of grassfields is called Na-ram, but the tibetan scholar dGe-legs rNam-rgyal claimed it to be two species, the 1st is Na-ram and the 2nd Tha-ram, just the reverse to the common notions (35_050) tha ram. 'Jam-dpal (print p 196) tha ram, na ram (428) ram bu, na ram

1. Plantago depressa Willd. (Plantaginaceae) Plantain (Wangyal 2020)
2. Plantago asiatica L. (Plantaginaceae) Plantain (Kletter 2001)
3. Plantago cornuti Gouan (Plantaginaceae) Plantain (Kletter 2001)
4. Plantago himalaica Pilg. (Plantaginaceae) Plantain (Kletter 2001)
5. Plantago major L. (Plantaginaceae) Plantain (Molvray 1988 G,H,P). Cited from northern sources.
6. Plantago maritima L. (Plantaginaceae) Plantain (Molvray 1988 G). Cited from northern sources.

The generic ram pa is divided in four types : tha ram (Plantains), na ram (Shore arrowgrass), ram bu (Knotweeds) and spang ram (Knotweeds).
Johannes Schmidt (talk) 11:29, 6 April 2024 (EDT)