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-Return to '''''main page "[[Mulamadhyamakakarika: Verses from the Centre]]"''''' for information and links.
+#REDIRECT[[rin po che 'bar ba'i rgyud]][[Category:ར]]
-(return to list of '''''[[Contents & Translation of "Mulamadhyamakakarika: Verses from the Centre"]]''''')
-'''6. Investigation of Desire and the Desirous One'''
-'''''(Addiction)'''''
-. gal te 'dod chags snga rol na/<br>
-'dod chags med pa'i chags yod na/<br>
-de la brten nas 'dod chags yod/<br>
-chags yod 'dod chags yod par 'gyur/<br>
-. If a desirous one without desire exists before desire, desire would exist dependent on that [desirous one]. [When] a desirous one exists, desire exists.
-. chags pa yod par 'gyur na'ang*/<br>
-'dod chags yod par ga la 'gyur/<br>
-chags pa la yang 'dod chags ni/<br>
-yod dam med kyang rim pa mtshungs/<br>
-[*'''Ts.''' 146 chags pa yod par ma 'gyur na but acknowledges that ''Buddhapalita'' & ''Sherab Dronme'' follow the reading above. '''Ts.''' 147-9 has a lengthy discussion about the difference between the old and new translations of these verses.]
-. If there were no desirous one, how could there be desire? The same follows for the desirous one too: [it depends on] whether desire exists or not.
-. 'dod chags dang ni chags pa dag/<br>
-lhan cig nyid du skye mi rigs/<br>
-'di ltar 'dod chags chags pa dag /<br>
-phan tshun ltos pa med par 'gyur/<br>
-. It is not reasonable for desire and the desirous one to arise as co-existent. In this way desire and the desirous one would not be mutually contingent.
-. gcig nyid lhan cig nyid med de/<br>
-de nyid de dang lhan cig min/<br>
-ci ste tha dad nyid yin na/<br>
-lhan cig nyid du ji ltar 'gyur/<br>
-. Identity has no co-existence: something cannot be co-existent with itself. If there were difference, how could there be co-existence?
-. gal te gcig pu lhan cig na/<br>
-grogs med par yang der 'gyur ro/<br>
-gal te tha dad lhan cig na/<br>
-grogs med par yang der 'gyur ro/<br>
-. If the identical were co-existent, [co-existence] would also occur between the unrelated; if the different were co-existent, [co-existence] would also occur between the unrelated.
-[grogs med par is translated by '''K.''', [and '''G.''' (Gnoli)] as "without association". The Tibetan literally means "without assistance". [[grogs pa]] is the defining characteristic of [[rkyen]] (condition), i.e. it implies a functional relationship, usually causal; it is what helps something become what it is.]
-. gal te tha dad lhan cig na/<br>
-ci go 'dod chags chags pa dag/<br>
-tha dad nyid du grub 'gyur ram/<br>
-des na de gnyis lhan cig 'gyur/<br>
-. If the different were co-existent, how would desire and the desirous one be established as different or, if that were so, [how would] those two be co-existent?
-[this verse seems to say no more than v.7 below, but says it less neatly].
-. gal te 'dod chags chags pa dag/<br>
-tha dad nyid du grub gyur na/<br>
-de dag lhan cig nyid du ni/<br>
-ci yi phyir na yongs su rtog/<br>
-. If desire and the desirous were established as different, because of what could one understand them as co-existent?
-. tha dad grub par ma gyur pas/<br>
-de phyir lhan cig 'dod byed na/<br>
-lhan cig rab tu grub pa'i phyir/<br>
-tha dad nyid du yang 'dod dam/<br>
-. If one asserts them to be co-existent because they are not established as different, then because they would be very much established as co-existent, would one not also have to assert them to be different?
-. tha dad dngos po ma grub pas/<br>
-lhan cig dngos po 'grub mi 'gyur/<br>
-tha dad dngos po gang yod na/<br>
-lhan cig dngos por 'dod par byed/<br>
-. Since different things are not established, co-existent things are not established. If there existed any different things, one could assert them as co-existent things.
-. de ltar 'dod chags chags pa dag/<br>
-lhan cig lhan cig min mi 'grub/<br>
-'dod chags bzhin du chos rnams kun/<br>
-lhan cig lhan cig min mi 'grub/<br>
-. In that way, desire and the desirous one are not established as co-existent or not co-existent. Like desire, all phenomena are not established as co-existent or not co-existent.
-['''Ts.''' 153 explains "all phenomena" to refer to hatred and the hater, stupidity and the confused one, and proceeds to reconstruct v.1 substituting "hatred" for "desire" etc.]
-'dod chags dang chags pa brtag pa zhes bya ba ste rab tu byed pa drug pa'o //<br>

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