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Hi regarding the [[Palpung Khyentse Rinpoche]] page you created sometime back. I understand (from [[Karma Trinley Rinpoche IV|Karma Tinley Rinpoche]]) that when the previous Palpung Beru Khyentse passed away there was one Beru Khyentse tulku (born in Bhutan) recognized by Palpung monastery - and another Beru Khyentse tulku (born in Nyethang, Central Tibet in 1947) recognized by HH the 16th Karmapa. The Bhutanese incarnation, recognized by Palpung monastery, apparently inherited all the belongings of the previous tulku and later returned to Bhutan. He doesn't seem to have done much after that - and eventually passed away. The other one who was recognized by HH the 16th Karmapa was taken to Nangchen and put in the care of the leaders of the 'Brong-sar clan who had built a new monastery there for Karmapa - so he is sometimes also called 'Brong-sar or Bongsar Khyentse. (This is the one who came to India, established a monastery and retreat centre at Mainpat, built the temple in Bodhgaya, and one near Boudha.) Some say there was some disagreement between Tsurphu and Palpung which lead to these two tulkus - but that may be idle gossip. | Hi regarding the [[Palpung Khyentse Rinpoche]] page you created sometime back. I understand (from [[Karma Trinley Rinpoche IV|Karma Tinley Rinpoche]] who I talked to abot this almost 40 years ago) that when the previous Palpung Beru Khyentse passed away there was one Beru Khyentse tulku (born in Bhutan) recognized by Palpung monastery - and another Beru Khyentse tulku (born in Nyethang, Central Tibet in 1947) recognized by HH the 16th Karmapa. The Bhutanese incarnation, recognized by Palpung monastery, apparently inherited all the belongings of the previous tulku and later returned to Bhutan. He doesn't seem to have done much after that - and eventually passed away. The other one who was recognized by HH the 16th Karmapa was taken to Nangchen and put in the care of the leaders of the 'Brong-sar clan who had built a new monastery there for Karmapa - so he is sometimes also called 'Brong-sar or Bongsar Khyentse. (This is the one who came to India, established a monastery and retreat centre at Mainpat, built the temple in Bodhgaya, and one near Boudha.) Some say there was some disagreement between Tsurphu and Palpung which lead to these two tulkus - but that may be idle gossip. | ||
So Jamyang Khyentse (Shenpen) Ozer was the first Palpung / Beru Khyentse - one of the principal incarnations of Jamyang Khyentse Wangpo. After the first Beru Khyentse passed away there were two different tulkus recognized. Perhaps this clears things up a little. I don't know if Palpung monastery or Situ Rinpoche have subsequently recognized a tulku of the previous (Bhutanese) tulku who passed away. That may be why there is the "3rd" Beru Khyentse you mention. | So Jamyang Khyentse (Shenpen) Ozer was the first Palpung / Beru Khyentse - one of the principal incarnations of Jamyang Khyentse Wangpo. After the first Beru Khyentse passed away there were two different tulkus recognized. Perhaps this clears things up a little. I don't know if Palpung monastery or Situ Rinpoche have subsequently recognized a tulku of the previous (Bhutanese) tulku who passed away. That may be why there is the "3rd" Beru Khyentse you mention. | ||
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Re: Palpung Khyentse Rinpoche
Hi regarding the Palpung Khyentse Rinpoche page you created sometime back. I understand (from Karma Tinley Rinpoche who I talked to abot this almost 40 years ago) that when the previous Palpung Beru Khyentse passed away there was one Beru Khyentse tulku (born in Bhutan) recognized by Palpung monastery - and another Beru Khyentse tulku (born in Nyethang, Central Tibet in 1947) recognized by HH the 16th Karmapa. The Bhutanese incarnation, recognized by Palpung monastery, apparently inherited all the belongings of the previous tulku and later returned to Bhutan. He doesn't seem to have done much after that - and eventually passed away. The other one who was recognized by HH the 16th Karmapa was taken to Nangchen and put in the care of the leaders of the 'Brong-sar clan who had built a new monastery there for Karmapa - so he is sometimes also called 'Brong-sar or Bongsar Khyentse. (This is the one who came to India, established a monastery and retreat centre at Mainpat, built the temple in Bodhgaya, and one near Boudha.) Some say there was some disagreement between Tsurphu and Palpung which lead to these two tulkus - but that may be idle gossip.
So Jamyang Khyentse (Shenpen) Ozer was the first Palpung / Beru Khyentse - one of the principal incarnations of Jamyang Khyentse Wangpo. After the first Beru Khyentse passed away there were two different tulkus recognized. Perhaps this clears things up a little. I don't know if Palpung monastery or Situ Rinpoche have subsequently recognized a tulku of the previous (Bhutanese) tulku who passed away. That may be why there is the "3rd" Beru Khyentse you mention.
Chris 15:48, 5 May 2013 (EDT)
Hello Bj Lhundrup. Could you please sign your posts in Talk/Discussion pages with a quadruple tilde (~) ie, ~~~~. I'm finding it difficult to follow along as to whom is saying what in the discussions. It would also be nice if you could include a small profile about yourself in your User page User:Bj_Lhundrup so that we can know a little about some of our more active contributors. Thank you. [KT] 00:42, 31 July 2008 (EDT)