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wandering being, wanderer [RY]
 
wandering being, wanderer [RY]
  
1) living beings, mortal beings; 2) wandering, migrating, transmigratory, transient, transitory beings. This term is very closely related to [[skye 'gro]], a point most translators seem to have missed. The term [[skye 'gro]] gives the fuller sense of the meaning of '''gro ba'' ("''skye nas 'gro ba''"). The two terms are essentially synonymous, and moreover [['gro ba]] does not, strictly speaking, have the strong connotation with the usual verb [['gro]] as many seem to think it does (i.e. "wanderers" etc.), at least in most Tibetan and Buddhist textual contexts. Compare the same term translated into other classical Buddhist languages such as Chinese etc. An examination of the usage of the original Sanskrit ''gati'' is also in order. Likewise the distinction must be made between speaking of [['gro ba]] in terms of sentient beings in general and the particular realms of rebirth they inhabit, re: [['gro ba rigs drug]]. [[Erick Tsiknopoulos]]
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1) living beings, mortal beings; 2) wandering, migrating, transmigratory, transient, transitory beings. This term is very closely related to [[skye 'gro]], which gives a fuller sense to the meaning of '''gro ba'' ("''skye nas 'gro ba''"). The two terms are essentially synonymous, and moreover '''gro ba'' does not, strictly speaking, have the strong connotation with the usual verb '''gro'' as many seem to think it does (i.e. "wanderers" etc.), at least in most Tibetan and Buddhist textual contexts where the semantic meaning of "traveling" is not emphasized or referenced. Compare the same term translated into other classical Buddhist languages such as Chinese etc. An examination of the usage of the original Sanskrit गति ''gati'' is also in order, and it has numerous meanings: going, moving, gait, deportment, motion in general, manner or power of going, procession, march, passage, procedure, progress, movement, path, way, course, place of issue, origin, reason, possibility, expedient, means, means of success, way or art, method of acting, refuge, resource, the position (of a child at birth), state, condition, situation, proportion, mode of existence, a happy issue; happiness, the course of the soul through numerous forms of life, metempsychosis, condition of a person undergoing this migration, manner, the being understood or meant, (grammar) a term for prepositions and some other adverbial prefixes when immediately connected with the tenses of a verb or with verbal derivatives, a kind of rhetorical figure, a particular high number, motion (personified as a daughter of Kardama and wife of Pulaha). Likewise the distinction must be made between speaking of [['gro ba]] in terms of sentient beings in general and the particular realms of rebirth they inhabit, re: [['gro ba rigs drug]]. [[Erick Tsiknopoulos]]
  
 
Wanderer [[User:DKC|DKC]]   
 
Wanderer [[User:DKC|DKC]]   

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འགྲོ་བ
going constantly/ repeatedly/ far [IW]

to practice, walk form of life, rebirth, migrations, depart, leave, move, proceed, travel, tread, go, go away, proceed to, walk, living creature, that which moves, live, exist, be, migrants, migratory beings, proceeding, to become, arrive in [JV]

. . . du 'gro ba - to come to . . . [RB]

1) [sentient] beings; 2) loka/ world; 3) travel/ [trans]migrator[-ion]'; 5) will become; 6) walk; 7) contain; 8) go/ come [into/ off to]; 9) enter [IW]

Migrators, Migrating beings, jagat, or ('gro ba rnams), Sentient beings, wandering continually from one samsaric existence to another [RY]

wanderer, wandering being [thd]

to go (about); being(s); isc. to be [RB]

'gro ba, phyin pa, 'gro ba, song intr. v. 1) n. living, sentient beings, creatures, 'migrator', transmigrator, loka, world [of living beings]. 2) v. to go, follow, migrate, will become, to go, beings. 3) to travel, walk, come to. go (about); go off to; go/ come into/ off to, enter. 4) destiny, migration, gati; going constantly/ repeatedly/ far [RY]

worth; dngul srang bzhi bcur 'gro ba'i gzims gur a tent worth forty silver 'sang' RY

wandering being, wanderer [RY]

1) living beings, mortal beings; 2) wandering, migrating, transmigratory, transient, transitory beings. This term is very closely related to skye 'gro, which gives a fuller sense to the meaning of 'gro ba ("skye nas 'gro ba"). The two terms are essentially synonymous, and moreover gro ba does not, strictly speaking, have the strong connotation with the usual verb gro as many seem to think it does (i.e. "wanderers" etc.), at least in most Tibetan and Buddhist textual contexts where the semantic meaning of "traveling" is not emphasized or referenced. Compare the same term translated into other classical Buddhist languages such as Chinese etc. An examination of the usage of the original Sanskrit गति gati is also in order, and it has numerous meanings: going, moving, gait, deportment, motion in general, manner or power of going, procession, march, passage, procedure, progress, movement, path, way, course, place of issue, origin, reason, possibility, expedient, means, means of success, way or art, method of acting, refuge, resource, the position (of a child at birth), state, condition, situation, proportion, mode of existence, a happy issue; happiness, the course of the soul through numerous forms of life, metempsychosis, condition of a person undergoing this migration, manner, the being understood or meant, (grammar) a term for prepositions and some other adverbial prefixes when immediately connected with the tenses of a verb or with verbal derivatives, a kind of rhetorical figure, a particular high number, motion (personified as a daughter of Kardama and wife of Pulaha). Likewise the distinction must be made between speaking of 'gro ba in terms of sentient beings in general and the particular realms of rebirth they inhabit, re: 'gro ba rigs drug. Erick Tsiknopoulos

Wanderer DKC

Discussion[edit]

This term is frequently translated as "transmigrator" or "migrator" but these words seems somewhat clumsy and unpoetic in English. I would suggest that the translation "wanderer" is a bit more evocative. DKC

Note -- But that's not the meaning, 'gro ba is a short form of skye 'gro and hence means "living being", and is used in this much more generic sense in most contexts. [Erick Tsiknopoulos]