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'''11. Investigation of Extremes of Before and After''' | '''Chapter 11. Investigation of Extremes of Before and After''' | ||
'''''(Before)''''' | '''''(Before)''''' - ([[snga phyi]]) - <span class=TibUni18>སྔ་ཕྱི།</span><br> | ||
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<span class=TibUni18>།སྔོན་མཐའ་མངོན་ནམ་ཞེས་ཞུས་ཚེ།</span><br> | |||
1. sngon mtha' mngon nam zhes zhus tshe/<br> | <span class=TibUni18>།ཐུབ་པ་ཆེན་པོས་མིན་ཞེས་གསུངས།</span><br> | ||
thub pa chen | |||
'khor ba thog ma tha med de/<br> | <span class=TibUni18>།འཁོར་བ་ཐོག་མ་ཐ་མེད་དེ།</span><br> | ||
de la sngon med phyi ma med/ | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།དེ་ལ་སྔོན་མེད་ཕྱི་མ་མེད།།</span><br> | |||
1. [[sngon mtha']] [[mngon]] [[nam]] [[zhes]] [[zhus]] [[tshe]]/<br> | |||
[[thub pa chen po]]s [[min]] [[zhes]] [[gsungs]]/<br> | |||
[['khor ba]] [[thog ma]] [[tha]] [[med]] [[de]]/<br> | |||
[[de la]] [[sngon med]] [[phyi ma]] [[med]]// | |||
1. When asked, "is a before-extreme evident?" the great Muni said, "it is not." Samsara has no beginning, no end; it has no before, no after. | 1. When asked, "is a before-extreme evident?" the great Muni said, "it is not." Samsara has no beginning, no end; it has no before, no after. | ||
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<span class=TibUni18>།གང་ལ་ཐོག་མེད་ཐ་མེད་པར།</span><br> | |||
2. gang la thog med tha med par/<br> | <span class=TibUni18>།དེ་ལ་དབུས་ནི་ག་ལ་ཡོད།།</span><br> | ||
de la dbus ni ga la yod/<br> | |||
de phyir de la snga phyi dang/<br> | <span class=TibUni18>།དེ་ཕྱིར་དེ་ལ་སྔ་ཕྱི་དང།</span><br> | ||
lhan cig rim pa mi 'thad do/ | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།ལྷན་ཅིག་རིམ་པ་མི་འཐད་དོ།།</span> | |||
2. [[gang la]] [[thog med]] [[tha]] [[med par]]/<br> | |||
[[de la]] [[dbus]] [[ni]] [[ga la yod]]/<br> | |||
[[de phyir]] [[de la]] [[snga phyi]] [[dang]]/<br> | |||
[[lhan cig]] [[rim pa]] [[mi 'thad]] [[do]]// | |||
2. For that without beginning [and] end, where can a middle be in that? Therefore, it is not possible for it to have before, after, and simultaneous phases. | 2. For that without beginning [and] end, where can a middle be in that? Therefore, it is not possible for it to have before, after, and simultaneous phases. | ||
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<span class=TibUni18>།གལ་ཏེ་སྐྱེ་བ་སྔ་གྱུར་ལ།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།རྒ་ཤི་ཕྱི་མ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།སྐྱེ་བ་རྒ་ཤི་མེད་པ་དང།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།མ་ཤི་བར་ཡང་སྐྱེ་བར་འགྱུར།།</span><br> | |||
3. gal te skye ba snga gyur la/<br> | 3. [[gal te]] [[skye ba snga]] [[gyur la]]/<br> | ||
rga shi phyi ma yin na ni/<br> | [[rga shi]] [[phyi ma]] [[yin na]] [[ni]]/<br> | ||
skye ba rga shi med pa dang/<br> | [[skye ba]] [[rga shi]] [[med pa]] [[dang]]/<br> | ||
ma shi | [[ma shi ba]]r [[yang]] [[skye bar 'gyur]]// | ||
3. If birth were before and aging / death after, there would be birth without aging / death and also without dying one would be born. | 3. If birth were before and aging / death after, there would be birth without aging / death and also without dying one would be born. | ||
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<span class=TibUni18>།ག་ཏེ་སྐྱེ་བ་ཕྱི་འགྱུར་ལ།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།རྒ་ཤི་སྔ་བ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།</span><br> | |||
4. gal te skye ba | <span class=TibUni18>།སྐྱེ་བ་མེད་པའི་རྒ་ཤི་ནི།</span><br> | ||
rga shi snga ba* yin na ni/<br> | |||
skye ba med pa'i rga shi ni/<br> | <span class=TibUni18>།རྒྱུ་མེད་པར་ནི་ཇི་ལྟར་འགྱུར།།</span><br> | ||
rgyu med par ni ji ltar 'gyur/ | |||
4. [[gal te]] [[skye ba]] [[phyi]] [['gyur]] [[la]]/<br> | |||
[[rga shi]] [[snga ba]]* [[yin na]] [[ni]]/<br> | |||
[[skye ba med pa]]'i [[rga shi]] [[ni]]/<br> | |||
[[rgyu med par]] [[ni]] [[ji ltar]] [['gyur]]// | |||
['''Lha.''' *ma] | ['''Lha.''' *ma] | ||
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4. If birth were after and aging / death before, how could there be an uncaused aging / death which has no birth? | 4. If birth were after and aging / death before, how could there be an uncaused aging / death which has no birth? | ||
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<span class=TibUni18>།སྐྱེ་བ་དང་ནི་རྒ་ཤི་དག།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།ལྷན་ཅིག་རུང་བ་མ་ཡིན་ཏེ།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།སྐྱེ་བཞིན་པ་ནི་འཆི་འགྱུར་ཞིང།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།གཉིས་ཀ་རྒྱུ་མེད་ཅན་དུ་འགྱུར།།</span><br> | |||
5. skye ba dang ni rga shi dag/<br> | 5. [[skye ba]] [[dang]] [[ni]] [[rga shi]] [[dag]]/<br> | ||
lhan cig rung ba ma yin te/<br> | [[lhan cig]] [[rung ba]] [[ma yin te]]/<br> | ||
skye bzhin pa ni 'chi 'gyur zhing/<br> | [[skye bzhin pa]] [[ni]] [['chi]] [['gyur zhing]]/<br> | ||
gnyis ka rgyu med can du 'gyur/ | [[gnyis ka]] [[rgyu med]] [[can du 'gyur]]// | ||
5. It is not suitable for birth and aging / death to be simultaneous; that which is being born would be dying and both would be without cause. | 5. It is not suitable for birth and aging / death to be simultaneous; that which is being born would be dying and both would be without cause. | ||
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<span class=TibUni18>།གང་ལ་སྔ་ཕྱི་ལྷན་ཅིག་གི།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།རིམ་པ་དེ་དག་མི་སྲིད་པའི།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།སྐྱེ་བ་དེ་དང་རྒ་ཤི་དེ།</span><br> | |||
6. gang la snga phyi lhan cig gi/<br> | <span class=TibUni18>།ཅི་ཡི་ཕྱིར་ན་སྤྲོ་བར་བྱེད།།</span><br> | ||
rim pa de dag mi srid pa'i/<br> | |||
skye ba de dang rga shi de/<br> | 6. [[gang la]] [[snga phyi]] [[lhan cig]] [[gi]]/<br> | ||
ci yi phyir na spro | [[rim pa]] [[de dag]] [[mi srid pa]]'i/<br> | ||
[[skye ba]] [[de dang]] [[rga shi]] [[de]]/<br> | |||
[[ci yi phyir]] [[na]] [[spro bar byed]]*// | |||
['''Lha.''' *spros] | ['''Lha.''' *spros] | ||
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6. Why fixate on that birth, that aging / dying, for which the phases of before, after, simultaneity are impossible? | 6. Why fixate on that birth, that aging / dying, for which the phases of before, after, simultaneity are impossible? | ||
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<span class=TibUni18>།འཁོར་བ་འབའ་ཞིག་སྔོན་གྱི་མཐའ།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།ཡོད་མ་ཡིན་པར་མ་ཟད་ཀྱི།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།རྒྱུ་དང་འབྲས་བུ་ཉིད་དང་ནི།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།མཚན་ཉིད་དང་ནི་མཚན་གཞི་ཉིད།།</span><br> | |||
7. [['khor ba]] [['ba' zhig]] [[sngon gyi mtha']]/<br> | |||
[[yod ma yin]] [[par ma]] [[zad]] [[kyi]]/<br> | |||
[[rgyu dang 'bras bu]] [[nyid]] [[dang]] [[ni]]/<br> | |||
[[mtshan nyid]] [[dang]] [[ni]] [[mtshan gzhi]] [[nyid]]// | |||
7. It is not just samsara alone that has no before-extreme, cause and fruit themselves, and | |||
characteristics and the basis for characteristics themselves, | |||
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<span class=TibUni18>།ཚོར་དང་ཚོར་པོ་ཉིད་དང་ནི།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།དོན་ཡོད་གང་དག་ཅི་ཡང་རུང།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།དངོས་རྣམས་ཐམས་ཅད་ཉིད་ལ་ཡང།</span><br> | |||
<span class=TibUni18>།སྔོན་གྱི་མཐའ་ནི་ཡོད་མ་ཡིན།།</span><br> | |||
8. [[tshor]] [[dang]] [[tshor]] [[po]] [[nyid]] [[dang]] [[ni]]/<br> | |||
yod | [[don yod]] [[gang dag]] [[ci yang rung]]/<br> | ||
[[dngos rnams]] [[thams cad nyid]] [[la yang]]/<br> | |||
[[sngon gyi mtha']] [[ni]] [[yod ma yin]]// | |||
8. Feeling and the feeler, whatever is suitable to bear meaning, also all things have no before-extreme. | |||
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<span class=TibUni18>།སྔོན་དང་ཕྱི་མའི་མཐའ་བརྟག་པ་ཞེས་བྱ་སྟེ་རབ་ཏུ་བྱེད་པ་བཅུ་གཅིག་པའོ།།</span><br> | |||
[[sngon]] [[dang]] [[phyi ma'i mtha']] [[brtag pa]] [[zhes bya ste]] [[rab tu byed pa]] [[bcu gcig pa]]'o// | |||
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Chapter 11. Investigation of Extremes of Before and After
(Before) - (snga phyi) - སྔ་ཕྱི།
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།སྔོན་མཐའ་མངོན་ནམ་ཞེས་ཞུས་ཚེ།
།ཐུབ་པ་ཆེན་པོས་མིན་ཞེས་གསུངས།
།འཁོར་བ་ཐོག་མ་ཐ་མེད་དེ།
།དེ་ལ་སྔོན་མེད་ཕྱི་མ་མེད།།
1. sngon mtha' mngon nam zhes zhus tshe/
thub pa chen pos min zhes gsungs/
'khor ba thog ma tha med de/
de la sngon med phyi ma med//
1. When asked, "is a before-extreme evident?" the great Muni said, "it is not." Samsara has no beginning, no end; it has no before, no after.
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།གང་ལ་ཐོག་མེད་ཐ་མེད་པར།
།དེ་ལ་དབུས་ནི་ག་ལ་ཡོད།།
།དེ་ཕྱིར་དེ་ལ་སྔ་ཕྱི་དང།
།ལྷན་ཅིག་རིམ་པ་མི་འཐད་དོ།།
2. gang la thog med tha med par/
de la dbus ni ga la yod/
de phyir de la snga phyi dang/
lhan cig rim pa mi 'thad do//
2. For that without beginning [and] end, where can a middle be in that? Therefore, it is not possible for it to have before, after, and simultaneous phases.
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།གལ་ཏེ་སྐྱེ་བ་སྔ་གྱུར་ལ།
།རྒ་ཤི་ཕྱི་མ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།
།སྐྱེ་བ་རྒ་ཤི་མེད་པ་དང།
།མ་ཤི་བར་ཡང་སྐྱེ་བར་འགྱུར།།
3. gal te skye ba snga gyur la/
rga shi phyi ma yin na ni/
skye ba rga shi med pa dang/
ma shi bar yang skye bar 'gyur//
3. If birth were before and aging / death after, there would be birth without aging / death and also without dying one would be born.
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།ག་ཏེ་སྐྱེ་བ་ཕྱི་འགྱུར་ལ།
།རྒ་ཤི་སྔ་བ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།
།སྐྱེ་བ་མེད་པའི་རྒ་ཤི་ནི།
།རྒྱུ་མེད་པར་ནི་ཇི་ལྟར་འགྱུར།།
4. gal te skye ba phyi 'gyur la/
rga shi snga ba* yin na ni/
skye ba med pa'i rga shi ni/
rgyu med par ni ji ltar 'gyur//
[Lha. *ma]
4. If birth were after and aging / death before, how could there be an uncaused aging / death which has no birth?
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།སྐྱེ་བ་དང་ནི་རྒ་ཤི་དག།
།ལྷན་ཅིག་རུང་བ་མ་ཡིན་ཏེ།
།སྐྱེ་བཞིན་པ་ནི་འཆི་འགྱུར་ཞིང།
།གཉིས་ཀ་རྒྱུ་མེད་ཅན་དུ་འགྱུར།།
5. skye ba dang ni rga shi dag/
lhan cig rung ba ma yin te/
skye bzhin pa ni 'chi 'gyur zhing/
gnyis ka rgyu med can du 'gyur//
5. It is not suitable for birth and aging / death to be simultaneous; that which is being born would be dying and both would be without cause.
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།གང་ལ་སྔ་ཕྱི་ལྷན་ཅིག་གི།
།རིམ་པ་དེ་དག་མི་སྲིད་པའི།
།སྐྱེ་བ་དེ་དང་རྒ་ཤི་དེ།
།ཅི་ཡི་ཕྱིར་ན་སྤྲོ་བར་བྱེད།།
6. gang la snga phyi lhan cig gi/
rim pa de dag mi srid pa'i/
skye ba de dang rga shi de/
ci yi phyir na spro bar byed*//
[Lha. *spros]
6. Why fixate on that birth, that aging / dying, for which the phases of before, after, simultaneity are impossible?
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།འཁོར་བ་འབའ་ཞིག་སྔོན་གྱི་མཐའ།
།ཡོད་མ་ཡིན་པར་མ་ཟད་ཀྱི།
།རྒྱུ་དང་འབྲས་བུ་ཉིད་དང་ནི།
།མཚན་ཉིད་དང་ནི་མཚན་གཞི་ཉིད།།
7. 'khor ba 'ba' zhig sngon gyi mtha'/
yod ma yin par ma zad kyi/
rgyu dang 'bras bu nyid dang ni/
mtshan nyid dang ni mtshan gzhi nyid//
7. It is not just samsara alone that has no before-extreme, cause and fruit themselves, and characteristics and the basis for characteristics themselves,
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།ཚོར་དང་ཚོར་པོ་ཉིད་དང་ནི།
།དོན་ཡོད་གང་དག་ཅི་ཡང་རུང།
།དངོས་རྣམས་ཐམས་ཅད་ཉིད་ལ་ཡང།
།སྔོན་གྱི་མཐའ་ནི་ཡོད་མ་ཡིན།།
8. tshor dang tshor po nyid dang ni/
don yod gang dag ci yang rung/
dngos rnams thams cad nyid la yang/
sngon gyi mtha' ni yod ma yin//
8. Feeling and the feeler, whatever is suitable to bear meaning, also all things have no before-extreme.
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།སྔོན་དང་ཕྱི་མའི་མཐའ་བརྟག་པ་ཞེས་བྱ་སྟེ་རབ་ཏུ་བྱེད་པ་བཅུ་གཅིག་པའོ།།
sngon dang phyi ma'i mtha' brtag pa zhes bya ste rab tu byed pa bcu gcig pa'o//