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'''11. Investigation of Extremes of Before and After'''
'''Chapter 11. Investigation of Extremes of Before and After'''


'''''(Before)'''''
'''''(Before)''''' - ([[snga phyi]]) - <span class=TibUni18>སྔ་ཕྱི།</span><br>


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<span class=TibUni18>སྔོན་མཐའ་མངོན་ནམ་ཞེས་ཞུས་ཚེ།</span><br>


1. sngon mtha' mngon nam zhes zhus tshe/<br>
<span class=TibUni18>ཐུབ་པ་ཆེན་པོས་མིན་ཞེས་གསུངས།</span><br>
thub pa chen pos min zhes gsungs/<br>
'khor ba thog ma tha med de/<br>
de la sngon med phyi ma med/<br>


1. When asked, "is a before-extreme evident?" the great Muni said, "it is not." Samsara has no beginning, no end; it has no before, no after.
<span class=TibUni18>འཁོར་བ་ཐོག་མ་ཐ་མེད་དེ།</span><br>


<span class=TibUni18>དེ་ལ་སྔོན་མེད་ཕྱི་མ་མེད།།</span><br>


1. [[sngon mtha']] [[mngon]] [[nam]] [[zhes]] [[zhus]] [[tshe]]/<br>
[[thub pa chen po]]s [[min]] [[zhes]] [[gsungs]]/<br>
[['khor ba]] [[thog ma]] [[tha]] [[med]] [[de]]/<br>
[[de la]] [[sngon med]] [[phyi ma]] [[med]]//


2. gang la thog med tha med par/<br>
1. When asked, "is a before-extreme evident?" the great Muni said, "it is not." Samsara has no
de la dbus ni ga la yod/<br>
de phyir de la snga phyi dang/<br>
lhan cig rim pa mi 'thad do/<br>


2. For that without beginning [and] end, where can a middle be in that? Therefore, it is not possible for it to have before, after, and simultaneous phases.
beginning, no end; it has no before, no after.


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<span class=TibUni18>གང་ལ་ཐོག་མེད་ཐ་མེད་པར།</span><br>


3. gal te skye ba snga gyur la/<br>
<span class=TibUni18>དེ་ལ་དབུས་ནི་ག་ལ་ཡོད།།</span><br>
rga shi phyi ma yin na ni/<br>
skye ba rga shi med pa dang/<br>
ma shi bar yang skye bar 'gyur/<br>


3. If birth were before and aging / death after, there would be birth without aging / death and also without dying one would be born.
<span class=TibUni18>དེ་ཕྱིར་དེ་ལ་སྔ་ཕྱི་དང།</span><br>


<span class=TibUni18>ལྷན་ཅིག་རིམ་པ་མི་འཐད་དོ།།</span>


2. [[gang la]] [[thog med]] [[tha]] [[med par]]/<br>
[[de la]] [[dbus]] [[ni]] [[ga la yod]]/<br>
[[de phyir]] [[de la]] [[snga phyi]] [[dang]]/<br>
[[lhan cig]] [[rim pa]] [[mi 'thad]] [[do]]//


4. gal te skye ba 'phyi 'gyur la/<br>
2. For that without beginning [and] end, where can a middle be in that? Therefore, it is not
rga shi snga ba* yin na ni/<br>
 
skye ba med pa'i rga shi ni/<br>
possible for it to have before, after, and simultaneous phases.
rgyu med par ni ji ltar 'gyur/<br>
 
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<span class=TibUni18>གལ་ཏེ་སྐྱེ་བ་སྔ་གྱུར་ལ།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>རྒ་ཤི་ཕྱི་མ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>སྐྱེ་བ་རྒ་ཤི་མེད་པ་དང།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>མ་ཤི་བར་ཡང་སྐྱེ་བར་འགྱུར།།</span><br>
 
3. [[gal te]] [[skye ba snga]] [[gyur la]]/<br>
[[rga shi]] [[phyi ma]] [[yin na]] [[ni]]/<br>
[[skye ba]] [[rga shi]] [[med pa]] [[dang]]/<br>
[[ma shi ba]]r [[yang]] [[skye bar 'gyur]]//
 
3. If birth were before and aging / death after, there would be birth without aging / death and
 
also without dying one would be born.
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ག་ཏེ་སྐྱེ་བ་ཕྱི་འགྱུར་ལ།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>རྒ་ཤི་སྔ་བ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>སྐྱེ་བ་མེད་པའི་རྒ་ཤི་ནི།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>རྒྱུ་མེད་པར་ནི་ཇི་ལྟར་འགྱུར།།</span><br>
 
4. [[gal te]] [[skye ba]] [[phyi]] [['gyur]] [[la]]/<br>
[[rga shi]] [[snga ba]]* [[yin na]] [[ni]]/<br>
[[skye ba med pa]]'i [[rga shi]] [[ni]]/<br>
[[rgyu med par]] [[ni]] [[ji ltar]] [['gyur]]//


['''Lha.''' *ma]
['''Lha.''' *ma]


4. If birth were after and aging / death before, how could there be an uncaused aging / death which has no birth?
4. If birth were after and aging / death before, how could there be an uncaused aging / death  
 
which has no birth?
 
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<span class=TibUni18>སྐྱེ་བ་དང་ནི་རྒ་ཤི་དག།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>ལྷན་ཅིག་རུང་བ་མ་ཡིན་ཏེ།</span><br>


<span class=TibUni18>སྐྱེ་བཞིན་པ་ནི་འཆི་འགྱུར་ཞིང།</span><br>


<span class=TibUni18>གཉིས་ཀ་རྒྱུ་མེད་ཅན་དུ་འགྱུར།།</span><br>


5. skye ba dang ni rga shi dag/<br>
5. [[skye ba]] [[dang]] [[ni]] [[rga shi]] [[dag]]/<br>
lhan cig rung ba ma yin te/<br>
[[lhan cig]] [[rung ba]] [[ma yin te]]/<br>
skye bzhin pa ni 'chi 'gyur zhing/<br>
[[skye bzhin pa]] [[ni]] [['chi]] [['gyur zhing]]/<br>
gnyis ka rgyu med can du 'gyur/<br>
[[gnyis ka]] [[rgyu med]] [[can du 'gyur]]//


5. It is not suitable for birth and aging / death to be simultaneous; that which is being born would be dying and both would be without cause.
5. It is not suitable for birth and aging / death to be simultaneous; that which is being born  


would be dying and both would be without cause.


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6. gang la snga phyi lhan cig gi/<br>
<span class=TibUni18>གང་ལ་སྔ་ཕྱི་ལྷན་ཅིག་གི།</span><br>
rim pa de dag mi srid pa'i/<br>
 
skye ba de dang rga shi de/<br>
<span class=TibUni18>རིམ་པ་དེ་དག་མི་སྲིད་པའི།</span><br>
ci yi phyir na spro* bar byed/<br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>སྐྱེ་བ་དེ་དང་རྒ་ཤི་དེ།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>ཅི་ཡི་ཕྱིར་ན་སྤྲོ་བར་བྱེད།།</span><br>
 
6. [[gang la]] [[snga phyi]] [[lhan cig]] [[gi]]/<br>
[[rim pa]] [[de dag]] [[mi srid pa]]'i/<br>
[[skye ba]] [[de dang]] [[rga shi]] [[de]]/<br>
[[ci yi phyir]] [[na]] [[spro bar byed]]*//


['''Lha.''' *spros]
['''Lha.''' *spros]


6. Why fixate on that birth, that aging / dying, for which the phases of before, after, simultaneity are impossible?
6. Why fixate on that birth, that aging / dying, for which the phases of before, after,  
 
simultaneity are impossible?
 
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<span class=TibUni18>འཁོར་བ་འབའ་ཞིག་སྔོན་གྱི་མཐའ།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>ཡོད་མ་ཡིན་པར་མ་ཟད་ཀྱི།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>རྒྱུ་དང་འབྲས་བུ་ཉིད་དང་ནི།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>མཚན་ཉིད་དང་ནི་མཚན་གཞི་ཉིད།།</span><br>
 
7. [['khor ba]] [['ba' zhig]] [[sngon gyi mtha']]/<br>
[[yod ma yin]] [[par ma]] [[zad]] [[kyi]]/<br>
[[rgyu dang 'bras bu]] [[nyid]] [[dang]] [[ni]]/<br>
[[mtshan nyid]] [[dang]] [[ni]] [[mtshan gzhi]] [[nyid]]//
 
7. It is not just samsara alone that has no before-extreme, cause and fruit themselves, and
 
characteristics and the basis for characteristics themselves,
 
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<span class=TibUni18>ཚོར་དང་ཚོར་པོ་ཉིད་དང་ནི།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>དོན་ཡོད་གང་དག་ཅི་ཡང་རུང།</span><br>
 
<span class=TibUni18>དངོས་རྣམས་ཐམས་ཅད་ཉིད་ལ་ཡང།</span><br>


<span class=TibUni18>སྔོན་གྱི་མཐའ་ནི་ཡོད་མ་ཡིན།།</span><br>


8. [[tshor]] [[dang]] [[tshor]] [[po]] [[nyid]] [[dang]] [[ni]]/<br>
[[don yod]] [[gang dag]] [[ci yang rung]]/<br>
[[dngos rnams]] [[thams cad nyid]] [[la yang]]/<br>
[[sngon gyi mtha']] [[ni]] [[yod ma yin]]//


7. 'khor ba 'ba' zhig sngon gyi mtha'/<br>
8. Feeling and the feeler, whatever is suitable to bear meaning, also all things have no before
yod ma yin par ma zad kyi/<br>
rgyu dang 'bras bu nyid dang ni/<br>
mtshan nyid dang ni mtshan gzhi nyid/<br>


7. It is not just samsara alone that has no before-extreme, cause and fruit themselves, and characteristics and the basis for characteristics themselves,
-extreme.


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<span class=TibUni18>སྔོན་དང་ཕྱི་མའི་མཐའ་བརྟག་པ་ཞེས་བྱ་སྟེ་རབ་ཏུ་བྱེད་པ་བཅུ་གཅིག་པའོ།།</span><br>


8. tshor dang tshor po nyid dang ni/<br>
[[sngon]] [[dang]] [[phyi ma'i mtha']] [[brtag pa]] [[zhes bya ste]] [[rab tu byed pa]] [[bcu gcig pa]]'o//
don yod gang dag ci yang rung/<br>
----
dngos rnams thams cad nyid la yang/<br>
sngon gyi mtha' ni yod ma yin/<br>


8. feeling and the feeler, whatever is suitable to bear meaning, also all things have no before-extreme.


sngon dang phyi ma'i mtha' brtag pa zhes bya ste rab tu byed pa bcu gcig pa'o//<br>
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Chapter 11. Investigation of Extremes of Before and After

(Before) - (snga phyi) - སྔ་ཕྱི།

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སྔོན་མཐའ་མངོན་ནམ་ཞེས་ཞུས་ཚེ།

ཐུབ་པ་ཆེན་པོས་མིན་ཞེས་གསུངས།

འཁོར་བ་ཐོག་མ་ཐ་མེད་དེ།

དེ་ལ་སྔོན་མེད་ཕྱི་མ་མེད།།

1. sngon mtha' mngon nam zhes zhus tshe/
thub pa chen pos min zhes gsungs/
'khor ba thog ma tha med de/
de la sngon med phyi ma med//

1. When asked, "is a before-extreme evident?" the great Muni said, "it is not." Samsara has no

beginning, no end; it has no before, no after.

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གང་ལ་ཐོག་མེད་ཐ་མེད་པར།

དེ་ལ་དབུས་ནི་ག་ལ་ཡོད།།

དེ་ཕྱིར་དེ་ལ་སྔ་ཕྱི་དང།

ལྷན་ཅིག་རིམ་པ་མི་འཐད་དོ།།

2. gang la thog med tha med par/
de la dbus ni ga la yod/
de phyir de la snga phyi dang/
lhan cig rim pa mi 'thad do//

2. For that without beginning [and] end, where can a middle be in that? Therefore, it is not

possible for it to have before, after, and simultaneous phases.

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གལ་ཏེ་སྐྱེ་བ་སྔ་གྱུར་ལ།

རྒ་ཤི་ཕྱི་མ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།

སྐྱེ་བ་རྒ་ཤི་མེད་པ་དང།

མ་ཤི་བར་ཡང་སྐྱེ་བར་འགྱུར།།

3. gal te skye ba snga gyur la/
rga shi phyi ma yin na ni/
skye ba rga shi med pa dang/
ma shi bar yang skye bar 'gyur//

3. If birth were before and aging / death after, there would be birth without aging / death and

also without dying one would be born.

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ག་ཏེ་སྐྱེ་བ་ཕྱི་འགྱུར་ལ།

རྒ་ཤི་སྔ་བ་ཡིན་ན་ནི།

སྐྱེ་བ་མེད་པའི་རྒ་ཤི་ནི།

རྒྱུ་མེད་པར་ནི་ཇི་ལྟར་འགྱུར།།

4. gal te skye ba phyi 'gyur la/
rga shi snga ba* yin na ni/
skye ba med pa'i rga shi ni/
rgyu med par ni ji ltar 'gyur//

[Lha. *ma]

4. If birth were after and aging / death before, how could there be an uncaused aging / death

which has no birth?

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སྐྱེ་བ་དང་ནི་རྒ་ཤི་དག།

ལྷན་ཅིག་རུང་བ་མ་ཡིན་ཏེ།

སྐྱེ་བཞིན་པ་ནི་འཆི་འགྱུར་ཞིང།

གཉིས་ཀ་རྒྱུ་མེད་ཅན་དུ་འགྱུར།།

5. skye ba dang ni rga shi dag/
lhan cig rung ba ma yin te/
skye bzhin pa ni 'chi 'gyur zhing/
gnyis ka rgyu med can du 'gyur//

5. It is not suitable for birth and aging / death to be simultaneous; that which is being born

would be dying and both would be without cause.

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གང་ལ་སྔ་ཕྱི་ལྷན་ཅིག་གི།

རིམ་པ་དེ་དག་མི་སྲིད་པའི།

སྐྱེ་བ་དེ་དང་རྒ་ཤི་དེ།

ཅི་ཡི་ཕྱིར་ན་སྤྲོ་བར་བྱེད།།

6. gang la snga phyi lhan cig gi/
rim pa de dag mi srid pa'i/
skye ba de dang rga shi de/
ci yi phyir na spro bar byed*//

[Lha. *spros]

6. Why fixate on that birth, that aging / dying, for which the phases of before, after,

simultaneity are impossible?

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འཁོར་བ་འབའ་ཞིག་སྔོན་གྱི་མཐའ།

ཡོད་མ་ཡིན་པར་མ་ཟད་ཀྱི།

རྒྱུ་དང་འབྲས་བུ་ཉིད་དང་ནི།

མཚན་ཉིད་དང་ནི་མཚན་གཞི་ཉིད།།

7. 'khor ba 'ba' zhig sngon gyi mtha'/
yod ma yin par ma zad kyi/
rgyu dang 'bras bu nyid dang ni/
mtshan nyid dang ni mtshan gzhi nyid//

7. It is not just samsara alone that has no before-extreme, cause and fruit themselves, and

characteristics and the basis for characteristics themselves,

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ཚོར་དང་ཚོར་པོ་ཉིད་དང་ནི།

དོན་ཡོད་གང་དག་ཅི་ཡང་རུང།

དངོས་རྣམས་ཐམས་ཅད་ཉིད་ལ་ཡང།

སྔོན་གྱི་མཐའ་ནི་ཡོད་མ་ཡིན།།

8. tshor dang tshor po nyid dang ni/
don yod gang dag ci yang rung/
dngos rnams thams cad nyid la yang/
sngon gyi mtha' ni yod ma yin//

8. Feeling and the feeler, whatever is suitable to bear meaning, also all things have no before

-extreme.

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སྔོན་དང་ཕྱི་མའི་མཐའ་བརྟག་པ་ཞེས་བྱ་སྟེ་རབ་ཏུ་བྱེད་པ་བཅུ་གཅིག་པའོ།།

sngon dang phyi ma'i mtha' brtag pa zhes bya ste rab tu byed pa bcu gcig pa'o//

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